To me it's still amazing that a lot of manufacturers are still cutting corners regarding hardware, wether it's bridge systems, pickups or in this case a good set of tuners. The last couple of years I lean mostly to the Ibanez prestige guitars which are amazing and still in contrare to a lot of other brands are still relatively good prized. I understand that when you have a guitar with a locking nut it is not neccassary to have locking tuners, but when you have a trem system it is already a hassle to set it up properly. So why don't they throw in the locking version of a stock Gotoh tuner, it's a small upgrade that doesn't cost an arm or a leg. Regarding the tuners themself they are rock solid and for Ibanez guitars, direct replacements. Easy to install and the thumbwheel works great, better than sperzels for example, their thumbwheel cuts your fingers. I use them for many years now and can recommend them for anyone.