OK I needed a drum kit to muck around on and record the odd fill for loops etc. I put pro heads on them straight away and to tell you the truth the toms and the kick sound really good, not amateur at all. The snare had a terrible after rattle that with my limited tuning etc skills was beyond fixing. I was going back to the actual Thomann store cum town anyway so a store drum tech spent 30 minutes on fixing at no cost. I am now completely happy with the overall sound of the drums. If you know anything about cheap cymbals you will know why I am not going to comment on those regardless of brand. One extra thing I would say is, when I was constructing the kit I noticed that a lot of inner shell screws weren't that tight so after 3 hours (there are a lot of screws per drum) I am now confident that they will not need re-tightening for years I would hope. So in finishing I would say that if you are willing to put a bit of TLC into this kit it is great value and good foundation if you want to upgrade some parts in the future.